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- motters, on 11/20/2008, -9/+42The Moonlight implementation seems to be sailing too close to software patent disaster for comfort, since according to Wikipedia Microsoft allowed "access to the Silverlight Base Class Library APIs, binary codecs and test cases available to the Mono team, none of which are available to other members of the public". Unlike the C# language itself as far as I'm aware no ECMA standard exists for Silverlight, and as such a free software implementation of it may be on legally shaky ground.
- colincornaby, on 11/20/2008, -4/+5Technically you could implement a Silverlight player without access to any of those things, although I'm sure they helped in development. Silverlight is just a xml-ish file. You could implement your own parser. Much like HTML, that wouldn't mean that your output would be the same as Microsoft's player, which is probably why they let Moonlight take a peek at their code. I'm guessing Microsoft wanted to keep output the same across platforms.
- mrsharpoblunto, on 11/20/2008, -2/+3xaml (the ui markup language used by silverlight) isn't interpreted by the browser like html, it gets compiled down to msil and runs on a (kind of) cross platform version of the common language runtime, so its much more than just xml parsing. You have to have a xaml compiler, and full implementation of the common language runtime and all the silverlight API's. Though much of that should be similar in many respects to the existing mono code base.
- DickBreath, on 11/20/2008, -1/+4> I'm guessing Microsoft wanted to keep output the same across platforms.
Well, I'm sure they do this year at least. Next year, who knows.
- benologist, on 11/20/2008, -2/+5Wasn't Novell specifically assured protection against patent infringement by some agreement with Microsoft earlier this year?
- marnaq, on 11/20/2008, -0/+8Then what's the point of GPL if you need a deal with Microsoft to distribute it?
- motters, on 11/20/2008, -1/+6Yes, some time ago. This effectively means that you could get sued for patent infringement if you distribute Moonlight on any Linux distro other than SUSE. If this were to happen it would allow Microsoft to say "look, those people using Linux are really just intellectual property thieves", thereby scaring business users away.
- diggproof, on 11/20/2008, -2/+2So is the Mono team just some slaves that MS tells to do their Linux dirty work? Mono team should be compensated for their core product Mono because it helps MS reach a wider audience.
- insomniac8400, on 11/21/2008, -2/+4It's a firefox plugin. People will install it when they run into silverlight content. Why would it need to be distributed with linux?
- KibibyteBrain, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5I don't think it will be an issue one way or another. Microsoft wants Silverlight to be a success, and their business model around Silverlight is built all around developers and servers. And to be a success in the context of all the competition it has well require very not-Microsoft of the past behavior which I think they are already aware of getting into this. So in practice, I think they will be very liberal about any legal moves that will be necessary to make the client-side of Silverlight as accessible as possible. Now for the server end...that is a different story...
- colincornaby, on 11/20/2008, -4/+5Technically you could implement a Silverlight player without access to any of those things, although I'm sure they helped in development. Silverlight is just a xml-ish file. You could implement your own parser. Much like HTML, that wouldn't mean that your output would be the same as Microsoft's player, which is probably why they let Moonlight take a peek at their code. I'm guessing Microsoft wanted to keep output the same across platforms.
- Chassit, on 11/20/2008, -13/+35I have to admit that I am skeptical of M$ developing anything for Linux. Since their pay for license software is all broken can they (or are they really willing) really produce a free program that will work?
I think not.- ArthurSucks, on 11/20/2008, -8/+4I really do believe that Microsoft will eventually learn. Maybe not in the next 5 years, but they are starting to see a market grow in the Linux world. The real question is who is the bigger threat to Microsoft? Linux or Adobe? I think for the next 10 years, Adobe.
- Chassit, on 11/20/2008, -3/+3Yeah, you're probably right about that. Maybe even Google...
- Aleman360, on 11/20/2008, -16/+6Let me guess, "M$" didn't hire you?
- Chassit, on 11/20/2008, -2/+11Never applied, however their broken crap has made me tons of money. :)
- roflcpt3r, on 11/20/2008, -1/+4What about photosynth?
- Chassit, on 11/21/2008, -4/+1I have never used it, but if it's like everything else of theirs that I have used (except DOS) it will be bug ridden.
- freesf, on 11/21/2008, -2/+7Your "M$" just shows that you are clueless and ignorant on the matter
- ArthurSucks, on 11/20/2008, -8/+4I really do believe that Microsoft will eventually learn. Maybe not in the next 5 years, but they are starting to see a market grow in the Linux world. The real question is who is the bigger threat to Microsoft? Linux or Adobe? I think for the next 10 years, Adobe.
- christopherRB, on 11/20/2008, -20/+11It's too little too late. FAIL
- fatas, on 11/20/2008, -7/+15Useless like during the Olympics the Moonlight version was too old to be compatible with NBC's coverage using Silverlight. Moonlight will always be behind.
At least with Adobe the releases are in unison.- benologist, on 11/20/2008, -8/+5Uh yeah.... it only took them how many years to do a 64 bit flashplayer for linux?
- fatas, on 11/20/2008, -1/+9they don't even have 64bit for the other OSs
You could still use 32bit in the mean time.
Unlike moonlight which was totally useless for the olympics - mbradbury, on 11/20/2008, -1/+12Currently Linux is the only OS with a publicly available 64 bit version of Flash
- nickpick, on 11/21/2008, -2/+3How many years were the 64-bit systems around? I recently ordered a brand new media laptop. Vista 32.
- Amiga501, on 11/22/2008, -0/+1Nobody else needed or wanted a 64-bit version of Flash, but Linux fanboys couldn't stop crying about it. Few even have the ***** brains to know it has no practical advantage.
- fatas, on 11/20/2008, -1/+9they don't even have 64bit for the other OSs
- benologist, on 11/20/2008, -8/+5Uh yeah.... it only took them how many years to do a 64 bit flashplayer for linux?
- ashgtx, on 11/20/2008, -14/+51Who needs Silverlight when you have Flash? Adobe has been kind enough to even release a 64 bit version just for Linux. And then their is Air.
- revenz, on 11/20/2008, -12/+27any decent .net developer? flash is a rubbish language compared to C#.
- neutronphaser, on 11/20/2008, -18/+8C# is a rubbish language compared to ActionScript
- benologist, on 11/20/2008, -2/+11As someone who uses both extensively.... C# is much better but ActionScript is well on it's way to awesome.
- darkism, on 11/20/2008, -15/+8"decent" and ".net" are mutually exclusive.
- neutronphaser, on 11/20/2008, -14/+6C# is a rubbish language compared to ActionScript
- nickpick, on 11/20/2008, -0/+16Flash is not a language. ActionScript is.
- r3negadeX, on 11/20/2008, -5/+41.) Flash is not a language
2.) Actionscript isn't brilliant but it is much more suitable as a scripting language for interactive content then C#. - fuse13, on 11/21/2008, -1/+4You cant write server side in ActionScript. Also, the vast majority of flash developers dont write very good code. I actually think the fact that Silverlight is starting with C# will bring people in from the development side, as opposed to creatives who have learned how to code.
If you are claiming C# is rubbish with an understanding of the .NET framework and all that jazz then you are entitled to your opinion. If you are claiming it is rubbish compared to ActionScript, then you are making a pretty silly comparison. - r3negadeX, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3"You cant write server side in ActionScript"
No *****, that's why ActionScript is used in Flash, which is client-side. - jhaks, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1I know that for the .Net framework you can use other languages built on the CLR but is this applicable for Silverlight? It would be interesting for those wanting to use Python or Ruby.
- neutronphaser, on 11/23/2008, -1/+2C# is a rubbish language compared to ActionScript
- int19h, on 11/24/2008, -0/+1You can use Haxe to create swf-files. Like Java, Flash has a VM, but unlike Java, "Flash" is not a language.
- halifaxboy, on 11/20/2008, -12/+2god why are people fanboying Flash, that is just sad. I agree Silverlight is not needed and is stupid face, but given the new Java frameworks (Struts, sprout core, Tapestry, Cocoon, Wicket, WebWork, Turbine, Makumba, Echo) products which are producinge stuff far leaner and meaner than anything the fat old man known as flash could produce! Sorry to say, but flash is too old and too bulky for these new web applications, for desktop or mobile platforms.
don't believe me ask Kevin Rose the guy behind digg.- halifaxboy, on 11/20/2008, -1/+1i am referring to Kevin's comments on flash.
- Atomic1fire, on 11/20/2008, -6/+6not only that, but they just implemented greater 3d support in flash 10
which means that there will be greater media using flash, while silverlight cowers in the corner - nickpick, on 11/20/2008, -3/+9I agree. Besides, never visited a site that actually used Silverlight, except Windows Update. The irony...
- revenz, on 11/20/2008, -12/+27any decent .net developer? flash is a rubbish language compared to C#.
- JustLetGo, on 11/20/2008, -16/+21silverlight lol
- neutronphaser, on 11/20/2008, -9/+3silverlight lol
- RadiatedAnt, on 11/20/2008, -1/+3No.
- westsayyid, on 11/20/2008, -1/+10why should i install silverlight?
what am i missing without it?
the only places where it seems to be used are on the MS web sites. that's hardly a reason to install it.- RobotBuddha, on 11/20/2008, -3/+2And netflix.
- arobar, on 11/20/2008, -3/+5Sites like The Comedy Network that allow you to view full episodes online link episode parts together with Silverlight. The videos are watchable without, but having to un-maximize the video, find the next one in your queue and load it up every 8 minutes is just a pain in the ass (far from the seamless experience the developers intended). If I watch the same videos on a Windows PC it's a much better experience overall. It's not just Microsoft sites that use Silverlight, there's plenty of content out there based on it.
Flash is a great technology that's worked decently, but for 5 years I've seen Flash spike the CPU, crash my browser, lock my browser, or crash X entirely on my Ubuntu boxes. If Microsoft can make a technology that does the same job without that kind of hassle, I really couldn't care less who made it. It's fun to hate Microsoft, sure, but in the end I just want a product that works. Linux + Silverlight gives me an online video solution that does just that. - nickpick, on 11/21/2008, -4/+1I see what you mean, arobar, but you've got to ask yourself a question: "Who's likelier to make a better app: The company which wrote Photoshop or the company which makes... well... Windows?"
- HonoredMule, on 11/21/2008, -3/+1What you're missing is more of Microsoft's claws under your skin.
- rubencarvalho, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/dests.php
- diggproof, on 11/20/2008, -0/+2wow what a compelling argument
- SecureXeC, on 11/20/2008, -13/+54Comment_1: WHY DOESN'T MICROSOFT OPEN THEIR ***** UP TO LINUX DEVELOPERS!?!11?!1
Comment_2: WTF? This is a scam! Why is Microsoft releasing ***** to be distributed on *nix!?!?
Seriously... Jesus.- Stonekeeper, on 11/20/2008, -13/+5They haven't opened up anything. I don't get your point.
- djdole, on 11/20/2008, -12/+3WTF...
Comment_1 interpretation: I WANT MS SOFTWARE ON LINUX!!!!!11!!!!
Comment_2 interpretation: I DON'T WANT MS SOFTWARE ON LINUX!!!!11!!!
Forget to take your skitzo meds?
(Note that I tard-ified them for you with the excessive exclamations & ones. Your welcome.) - SecureXeC, on 11/21/2008, -1/+9You're kind of slow, aren't you?
- Megatog615, on 11/21/2008, -3/+2This is not the kind of "open" we need. We need open protocols, file formats, etc, so WE can create our OWN implementations without having to worry about infringing on patents.
- SecureXeC, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1Damn those silly people protecting what's theirs.
- int19h, on 11/24/2008, -0/+1Microsoft has only indirectly opened up Silverlight through supporting Mono (developed by Novell, who got a pile of money for an intellectual property truce). So comment 1 makes sense.
Microsoft has not released or opened up Silverlight, so comment 2 makes sense too.
Where's the contradiction?
- Langford, on 11/20/2008, -8/+16It's IE5 for unix, all over again.
- revenz, on 11/20/2008, -16/+32i for one am a fan of silverlight (yeah go ahead microsoft haters bury me) it brings a strong programming language/framework to the client (C#/.net) - which is far superior to flash. you can hate microsoft all you want, but the one thing they do really well is .net and visual studio. moonlight going into beta is a very good thing
- greensky, on 11/20/2008, -5/+15My only gripe is that if Silverlight ever takes over and flash goes to the wayside, Microsoft will drop Silverlight for any non-MS platform like a hotcake. Take a look at the history of IE on Macs.
- Snarfy, on 11/20/2008, -9/+13How long did it take adobe to release a 64 bit linux client? Flash is no better. We need an open standard.
- krackle, on 11/20/2008, -2/+14@Snarfy What are you talking about. They released the linux / solaris flash client BEFORE everyone else.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/64_bit_linux_adobe_ ... - arobar, on 11/20/2008, -5/+6IE development for Mac was ceased in July of 2003. IE had been the dominant browser long before that time. That aside, IE development didn't stop because Microsoft wanted to pull all non-Windows OS support. Apple did not renew the agreement they had with Microsoft to make IE the default browser on new Mac OS installs. Competing against an Apple-made product (that was going to be the default browser on the platform) didn't make a lot of sense. Microsoft doesn't make direct revenue from Internet Explorer. Why would they continue to fund development for a platform where the user's dedication would cause them to use Safari anyways?
- Twinnie, on 11/21/2008, -2/+3Even if MS did someone would implement it. And besides, if they want it to stay popular they aren't going to start taking it away from people again, they sell the licence, not the client.
- Kelmon, on 11/21/2008, -1/+2@arobar
Well, let's be fair here, Apple developed Safari because IE5 on the Mac wasn't very good and Microsoft clearly had no interest in maintaining parity with the Windows platform. You also only need to look at Windows Media Player for the Mac, which they also dropped.
Put another way, Microsoft is not platform agnostic and they have a conflict of interests. Under no circumstances will I ever touch Silverlight when there is competition like Adobe Flash that, while imperfect, is more trustworthy.
- greensky, on 11/20/2008, -5/+15My only gripe is that if Silverlight ever takes over and flash goes to the wayside, Microsoft will drop Silverlight for any non-MS platform like a hotcake. Take a look at the history of IE on Macs.
- kbrower, on 11/20/2008, -0/+16this is good for netflix on linux, but we need silverlight 2.0 and that is not close to being done as far as i know
- RobotBuddha, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4Netflix needs 2.0? If so, man, that's unfortunate. I was really hoping that moonlight might be able to finally solve their long standing lack of linux streaming.
- kbrower, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2it will but you will have to wait for moonlight 2.0 which is alpha right now
- RobotBuddha, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4Netflix needs 2.0? If so, man, that's unfortunate. I was really hoping that moonlight might be able to finally solve their long standing lack of linux streaming.
- clickwir, on 11/20/2008, -10/+23No thank you. I won't use silverlight on windows, there's no way I'd use it on linux.
- arobar, on 11/20/2008, -6/+8What is your reasoning for this? Have you experienced problems with Silverlight? Or are you just blindly refusing to use the product because it's Microsoft, and therefore "obviously no good"?
- Hermmunster, on 11/20/2008, -4/+6I would say that Microsoft has a history of attacking Open Source, once claiming 235+ patent violations with total refusal to identify which. This means they are not to be trusted. They have installed spyware on your computer and have suffered class action lawsuits because of it. I am not interested in having Microsoft software on my Linux ever. That's why I'm on Linux. It's better, more secure, and protects my privacy.
- nickpick, on 11/21/2008, -2/+5To be frank, there are very few Microsoft products that didn't follow their classical development cycle:
1.0 New "okayish" product which lacks any functionality -> 2.0 Better product with solid functionality -> 3.0 complete disaster that no longer complies with 2.0 or 1.0, has a bunch of useless yet very "friendly" features and gives the impression that the GUI artist is a 3-year-old genius.
Is that a reason enough?
There are some MS apps that I like, e.g. Visual Studio, but the rest are just getting worst and worst. Even the Office, which was always a ray of light among MS software, is resembling Lego now. - javaroast, on 11/21/2008, -3/+3You can't experience problems with something that won't be installed. The web doesn't need any more closed formats and protocols and that's enough reason. You did make a nice attempt at sounding reasonable until you pulled the obviously no good line and then your own biases and influences peeked out. Microsoft has a history of trying to subvert the web. If you need evidence take a look at some of the documents released during their monopoly hearings.
And if you look at the parent post you'll see clickwir told you that he wouldn't use silverlight on windows, which implies he does use some Microsoft products which makes your statement even more ridiculous. - Peterix, on 11/21/2008, -3/+5I agree with clickwir. Mainly because I've never seen it work.
Hell, I tried. I installed it on many Windows machines just to try it - XP, Vista, 2000, I even tried running it in Wine. I used different versions of different browsers with different versions of silverlight. All this completely failed. None of the silverlight sites ever worked for me. NONE. I wasted a whole day on this crappy thing - which is just too much.
tl:dr version: Silverlight is irrelevant binary garbage that's not worth paying attention to.
- arobar, on 11/20/2008, -6/+8What is your reasoning for this? Have you experienced problems with Silverlight? Or are you just blindly refusing to use the product because it's Microsoft, and therefore "obviously no good"?
- redrighthand, on 11/20/2008, -2/+17Netflix for Linux perhaps?
- Hermmunster, on 11/20/2008, -4/+6Not interested. Don't want Microsoft products installed on my computer.
- nickpick, on 11/21/2008, -0/+4Netflix running on Silverlight? Really not a problem if you're outside US.
- Amiga501, on 11/22/2008, -1/+1Besides, your mom gets upset when you install things on the computer.
- Hermmunster, on 11/20/2008, -4/+6Not interested. Don't want Microsoft products installed on my computer.
- InetRoadkill, on 11/20/2008, -10/+19Do not want.
I'll stay with established and open industry standards. Adopting M$ standards into Linux just encourages M$ to refuse to play by open standards. Just say no. - trollick, on 11/20/2008, -16/+47. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _________
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- javaroast, on 11/21/2008, -2/+2Good to see people out of the loop are still whining about it.
- csulok, on 11/20/2008, -4/+24no thank you, crashes by flash, cpu usage maxed out by the horrible port is more than enough. one forced addon is more than enough.
secretly i'm hoping javascript + svg + replaces both these craps soon.- Langford, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6It took many long years for Microsoft to support of PNG in any way, and thats without PNG being a thread to any of their own products. I seriously doubt they will ever support SVG in any way, let alone a sophisticated implementation that included sound and other things that are yet to be developed by those who are genuinely interested.
- csulok, on 11/20/2008, -2/+6IE is going down, slowly but surely. silverlight on the other hand can infect retards and their alternative browsers too, there's nothing standing in its way.
so even if they never support svg, with the death of IE that will be fixed - ldog, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3One thing you can do for vector graphics with animation is to use dojo's gfx package. This keeps the calls simple and abstract. It renders in VML on IE, and SVG or Canvas for everything else.
Doesn't help much with sound and video, but does give you an open source option to flash and silverlight for things you can't do in plain dhtml.
- csulok, on 11/20/2008, -2/+6IE is going down, slowly but surely. silverlight on the other hand can infect retards and their alternative browsers too, there's nothing standing in its way.
- Langford, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6It took many long years for Microsoft to support of PNG in any way, and thats without PNG being a thread to any of their own products. I seriously doubt they will ever support SVG in any way, let alone a sophisticated implementation that included sound and other things that are yet to be developed by those who are genuinely interested.
- diggerpleez, on 11/20/2008, -4/+12Silverlight will never be the success that MS hoped it would be. All the apps look antiquated because the creative/designer types will never choose it over Adobe Flex and will never give it attention it needs in that area. As programmer myself, I can quite honestly say that we generally suck at design and are bound to those guys to make our stuff look worth a damn.
- diggproof, on 11/20/2008, -1/+2I think they have strong footing in the ASP.NET community, and that right there can shape what's required of the designers. If the website's written in .NET and there's an easy way to integrate Silverlight, I think the IT managers are going to go with .NET. But, I'm pretty sure SL will never be bigger than Flash though.
- jeffgtr, on 11/21/2008, -3/+3You pegged this one right. They will have a hard time getting designers to touch it and now we have Catalyst which will really remove the friction between designers and developers. To be able to do the design in Photoshop, bring it in to Catalyst then pass it over for a developer the finish things up in Flex Builder is going to be swell. I for one am not going to waste my time learning silverlight until it gains some traction, which I don't see happening anytime soon. I put it in the same category as vista and the zune.
- TyreeJackson, on 11/21/2008, -2/+3I totally agree with this statement. Where I work, the apps that we build are done on a decently sophisticated multi-tier system. The presentation tier is currently being built by ASP.Net developers. These sites look no better than sites we used to build in classic ASP from 10 years ago. This in turn reflects very poorly on the efforts that we put in to building a robust distributed application development platform.
I've approached our multimedia team to see what they could do for us. I offered them a way to allow them to use pure HTML and any other web-browser supported technologies for building the presentation tier and we would then "bind" to their work without altering their source. Their response was that they would rather work with Flash than HTML/CSS/etc. So to prove the flexibility of our multi-tier solution, I am building a lightweight ActionScript interface tier to allow them to do exactly that. The other tiers will still be built in .Net, but the presentation tier will be built in Flash. We will provide the application flow, business and back-end functionality. They will make it look good and give a great user experience for our end users.
They have no interest in .Net or Silverlight, and why should they. I would rather let them do what they do best with whatever tools they prefer. I don't want to force them the same way we were forced to used .Net by the politics of my organization (but that's another story).
- deaftly, on 11/20/2008, -7/+13Cue the MS hate.....
/too late - aserer511, on 11/20/2008, -8/+9fail flash competitor is still made of fail
- tempest, on 11/20/2008, -5/+6Awesome!
I hope I can now share in the fun with winblows users and get a good spyware infection. - Hermmunster, on 11/20/2008, -4/+6First, it wasn't a peace deal. When an entity which is part of a greater whole decides to turn and work with the enemy it is considered traitorous.
Second, I've no intention of putting any software from Microsoft on my computer, period. I'm not going to have those deviants spying nor will I allow them to monitor. And, I take silverlight off all my customer's computers whenever I see it. - dmorel, on 11/20/2008, -6/+6For those of us who actually work in the streaming media industry (that would be me) the news is welcome. The more desktops rich media content can be delivered to the better. Further, the implementations of flash have a tendency to behave differently across multiple platforms causing a sometimes inconsistent experience for the end user dependent on platform. I would also note that CPU utilization for *interesting* applications developed in flash far outweigh the CPU utilization of the same application in Silverlight. You can hate Microsoft all you want, but they are actually offering a quality delivery vehicle for the type of content I work with on a daily basis. We do plenty of interesting things in Flash as well, but it's far from being a one horse race at this point. While Microsoft has some serious catching up to do in terms of market share there are very interesting events on the horizon in this space and I fully expect to see Silverlight be a major component of some new trends in the coming months/years.
- int19h, on 11/24/2008, -0/+1What exactly can Silverlight do that Flash, Java applets and Javascript does not cover?
- SecureXeC, on 11/21/2008, -8/+1..Idiot.
- Fingel, on 11/21/2008, -6/+10Haha silverlight. Not worth slowing firefox down a few ms to load the extension I will never use.
- freesf, on 11/21/2008, -12/+7To Linux Geeks:
Open your mind, leave hate behind, Microsoft is not the devil. There are a lot of really good people, just like you and me, working on Silverlight and Mono, doing an exellent job!
Silverlight is a great adition and good option to Flash.- Megatog615, on 11/21/2008, -4/+4Yea, the Koolaid is where it's at.
- Amiga501, on 11/22/2008, -2/+1Linux followers are more like a religious cult than even Mac users. Something tells me you don't even know who Jim Jones was.
- Megatog615, on 11/21/2008, -4/+4Yea, the Koolaid is where it's at.
- mudfly, on 11/21/2008, -5/+8Hmm wow really, silverlight, no thanks! ***** you Balmer!
- Olfster, on 11/21/2008, -3/+5I love it! It is like IE all over again. We all know MS only does things in the best interest of their customers and developers. Don't we? They are such Innovators. /s
- Skyview, on 11/21/2008, -2/+7Hooray for another closed standard by MS !!
I'm not a Microsoft hater by long shot. But Microsoft is not in the position to EVER give Linux a fair treatment. Just look at accessing Hotmail from Ubuntu "this version is not supported" and you will have lots of errors trying to send e-mails. How about we stick to the existing standards and companies like Adobe there. I know that Adobe is not the perfect Linux supported but at least they have to opportunity to. If they (Adobe) choose to bring all their products out on Linux they are not alienating their business model as Microsoft would... - effiejayx, on 11/21/2008, -1/+5No thank you...
- d9d9, on 11/21/2008, -2/+2Bullcrap. Even Mono is not yet ready. Too many bugs. Just check bug list at oficial site.
- homerhomer, on 11/22/2008, -1/+1Maybe just conquience but it seems that this announcement came out right after www.MLB.com said they are going to use flash and ditch silverlight.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10098963-93.html - int19h, on 11/24/2008, -1/+1If I were Microsoft, I would also try to vendor-lock-in users and customers to the best of my ability. Spreading Silverlight everywhere, then later making the Windows-version better and/or threatening with IP lawsuits seems like the perfect trap.
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